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beer电话连线
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Dr.BeerQ&ATeleconference
August52004
WendyFisher:
Welcomeeveryonewhoisontheconferencecallandeveryonehere.I’mWendyFisher.TheideabehindthediscussiontodayistotalkwithwithmyReproductiveImmunologistDr.Beer.HehelpedwithdeliveringLeeandAndy,ourbabies,buthealsoknowsalotaboutimmunologyandhowitrelatestothehealthofparticularwomenandchildren. AndIfindwhenItalktopeople,therearemanygeneralsymptomsthatcanberelatedbacktospecificautoimmunedisordersanddisruptionsintheimmunesystem. SotheopportunityhereisforpeopletoaskquestionsandmaybeIcancomeupwithacoupletobegin,andsinceit'skindoffreeforall,IthinkwhatIwilldoistakeacouplefromhereinmylivingroomandthenaskifthereareanyquestionsoutthere.PeoplecangivemetheirnamesandIwillwritethemdownandthenIwillcallyournameandthenyoucanaskaquestionfromtheteleconference.
Dr.AlanBeer:
Andanyofyouwhoarephoninginandmye-mailaddressisbeerdoc@. MystafforIanswerallofoure-mailswithin24hours. SoiftherearequestionsIwelcomethem,andthisisreallythefirstplacetostart.
Ihaveaveryactiveweb-site.It’s http:
//repro- andmostofwhatIwillbetellingyouaboutthiseveningisonthatweb-site,thatjusttogiveyou afewsentencesastowhatIdo.TheaverageageofcouplesIseeis39.6plusorminustwoyearsofageandtheyhavebeenunsuccessful4.4plusorminustwotimes. Iusedtodealwithindividualsthathavelostthreepregnancies,disgustinglyhealthybutmiscarriedeverypregnancy. Andnowdealwithabouthalfofmypatientpopulationagaindisgustinglyhealthycoupleswhomakebeautifulembryosinthetesttubebutwhentheyareputbackinthewomen’sbodytheyallwitheronvine. SotheaverageindividualIseehasbeenthroughIVFthreetimes,theyhavespendalotofmoney--theyareangry,theyfeelthatthemedicalcommunityhasletthemdown,andithasbeenarealprivilegeformetoreallylearnthatthisconditionactuallythoughtofbymanydoctorsasbeing“Nature’sWay”,“God’sWill”,“Youareunluckythistime,tryagain,youwillbemoreluckythenexttime”,isreallyanimmuneproblemthatcausesrejectionoftheembryoandthisimmuneproblemisdangeroustowomen’shealth. AndIwouldliketotellyouatleastwhatIknowaboutthis. Allofusarebornwithnaturalkillercellsthatdefendusagainstcancer. Thesenaturalkillercellsseecancercells,theyspitoutachemicalcalledtumornecrosisfactoralphaanditparalysestheDNAinthecancercellssoitdoesn’tgrowanddivide,itdoesn'tkillthecellsbutit--itparalysestheDNA,soitdoesn’tgrowanddivide. CertainindividualshavetheabilitytomakegraduatestudentnaturalkillercellsthatnolongerplaybythesamerulesandthesenaturalkillercellsareexactlythesamekindthatwefindinthejointsofpatientswithRheumatoidArthritisandtheorgansofpatientswithLupus,inthebowelsofthepatientwithCrohn'sdiseasebutwefindthemintheuterusandinthebloodofindividualsthatIhavejustdescribedtoyou,perfectlyhealthybutindeedhavebeenveryunsuccessfulintheirreproduction. AndWendyFisherinwhosebeautifulhomeIamsittingthiseveningisaclassicexampleofthis. Shehadlostmanypregnancies,cametomewefoundhernaturalkillercellswerereallyonthe“Olympicteam”wewereabletosuppressthem. Shegotpregnantthefirst,hadLee,aperfectlynormalpregnancy,beautifulchild,gotpregnantsoonafterthat,hadAndy,aperfectlyhealthynormalpregnancy. Butnowthatsheisfinishedwithherfamilywearestilldealingwiththesameimmuneproblemthatbroughthertomethefirsttime. So,Ireallyunderstandwhat'shappeninginpatientslikeallofyouandIliketotellyouhowwemakethediagnosis.
Firstofall,thereisasimplebloodtestthatIseparateyournaturalkillercellsandIputthemtesttubeswithrapidlydividingplacentalcellsthatiftheyareeducatedtheywillkillwithintwohoursandIdeterminehowaggressivelytheykillatthreedifferentdilutions. Andthenumbersshouldbe10inthefirsttwo,fiveinthesecondtwo,twointhethirdtwo. PatientslikeWendyare35inthefirsttwo,28inthesecondtwo,and15inthethirdtwoandanythingabove15willdefinitelykillanembryo. Sincethesecellssecretetumornecrosisfactoralpha,oneofthetreatmentsthatweutilizearethenewRheumatoidArthritismedicationscalledRemicade,HumiraaswellasEnbrelandtheUSgovernmenthasbeensoconvincedbymydatathattheypatentedmetoutilizethesemedications,notforRheumatoidArthritisbutforconditionsofrecurrentpregnancylossandalsoimplantationfailure. AndmyhopeisthatwecannoweventuallygettheFDAapprovalforthesedrugstobeutilizedforthispurposebecausetheytrulywork.
ManyofthepatientsthatIseecometomewithahistoryofendometriosis. Theyhavebeentreatedbytheirdoctors,theyhavehadtheendometriosisclearedout,theyhavebeenabletotakemedicationsforthemandthedoctorshavepronouncedthemcuredbuttheygototryagainandtheyhaveanexceedinglyhighincidenceofimplantationfailureandrecurrentpregnancyloss. Wehavefoundthatifwetreatthenaturalkillercellsand,Jane,youhelpme?
Thesuccessrateis 80%?
JaneReed:
Idon'thaveitinfrontofbutIthinkitwasinthevicinityof78percentsuccessrateversus..
DrAlanBeer:
39%?
JaneReed:
Yes,somewhereinthe78percentpregnancysuccessrateversussomethinginthevicinityof40percentsuccessratewhenthedrugswerenotused. Sothereisahugedifference.Definitelyladieswithendometriosishaveaproblemthatcontinuesevenaftertheendometriosishasbeenremovedandthisproblemisapparentlyimmunebecausewhenyougivethemtheimmunetreatmentsthepregnanciessucceed.
Caller:
Canyouspeakalittlebitlouderplease?
Dr.AlanBeer:
I'msorry. WendyhadputJaneonanothertelephone.
JaneReed:
Yes,Iamsorry.BasicallyIjustsaidthatladieswithendometriosiswhentheyareusingtheimmunetherapiescanhavepregnancysuccessratesofupto78percentversuswhentheydonotuseimmunetherapies,Ibelieveitissomewhereinthe40or50percentongoingpregnancysuccessrates.Sotheimmunetreatmentsareobviouslymakingadifference.Andthisiseveninladieswhohavehadtheirendometriosisremoved.It'softenbeensaidthatwhentheendometriosisisremovedthattheywillbecured. However,theycontinuetofailunlesstheyhavetheimmunetreatments. Andthisissomethingwhichisnewandthisissomethingthatisnotknownandit'salmosttragicinawaythatsomeoftheseladiesaretoldthattheyarecured,socalled,whentheyhavehadtheseexpensivesurgeriesandthencontinuetofail. Youknow,andit'sdevastating,yettherearetreatments. Andthat'swhatDr.Beerispioneering.
Dr.Alan Beer:
ThethingIhatethemostaboutthisdisorderorthisnewdiseaseiswhatitdoestoawoman'sspirit. Youlosetrustinyourbody,yougetpregnantandyouwillwaiteverydaywhat'sgoingtohappentodaytoloosemypregnancyagain. Andit'sakindofarustofyourhopemachineandyourspiritandthereisreallynothingthatcancurethatotherthanprovingthatyourbodyisindeedmadetohavebabiesandyouareabletoproveittoyourself. Somyhopeforallofyououtthereandallyouhereisthatifyouareinfertileanddon'tknowthereason,ifyouhavebeenthroughafailedpregnancyorfailedcycle don'tlistentotheadvicewewillgetinterestedwhenyoufailthree. Whenababydieswhenapregnancyfailssomethingiswrong. Andit'sasimplebloodtestandatthemostabiopsyoftheliningoftheuterustodetermineifthenaturalkillercellsarethere,nomoredifficultthanthat.
WendyFisher:
Carryingforward,thatyoucouldusethosetests,andwhat'sinteresting,tocarryonwiththewomen’shealth,isthatthingslikeendometriosistheydon'tstop.Likewithme,onceyouhavehadyourchildren,theimmunesystemdoesn’tturnoff. Andsomaybeifyoucouldjusttalkaboutsomeofthesymptomsandthenthetreatmentsinwherethemedicalcommunityalsooftentimespeoplewillsay“Whatisitcalledthatyouhave?
” Maybeyoujustgothroughthis….
Dr.AlanBeer:
(JanehandsDr.Beerapieceofpaper)Okay,thedatawiththeendometriosiswas75percentofpregnancysuccesseswithtreatmentand44percentwithouttreatment. Also:
15percentofthepatientsIseewhohaveactivatednaturalkillercellsthatareinfertileeveniftheyaretreatedandsuccessfullikeWendyhasbeen,15percentwillstopmakinganenoughserotonin. SerotoninisnecessaryeachmonthtobuildthelayersoftheuterusintothreelayersorzonesandallowsbloodflowtogointozonethreeandwhenImeasuretheserotoninlevelanindividualswiththisproblemwhereitshouldbea100to400,Imayfinditlessthanfive. Andtheseindividualsfeeldesperate,theyareprojectoriented,theyobsessaboutthings,theyputtoomuchontheirplate,theyletproblemsgettothem,simplethingswheretheyhaveameltdown,rebootandthengetonwiththeirlives. Theyarethekindofindividualswhenyourhusbandcomeshomefromworkandhemightsaytoyou,“Honey,Ihaven’tevensaidanythingandyouhavethisattitudeaboutyou.”Andtherearepeopleawakeearlyinthemorningknowthatnowthatsleepthereisnolongergoingtobeapartoftheirmorning,theyareprojectorientedandtheygetonwiththeirday. Andthisistotallyduetolowseroto
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